Rail Commuter Council Opposes Eliminating Service on Branches
Governor’s proposal is “a turkey,” says council chairman Jim Cameron.
Governor Rell's Thanksgiving-eve proposal for elimination of commuter rail service on the New Canaan, Danbury and Waterbury branch lines of Metro-North is being met with a consistent cry from commuters… "What, is she joking?"
After being hailed for her six years of unwavering support for mass transit, this end-of-term surprise call for slashing rail service may just be a political negotiating point, but the CT Rail Commuter Council is taking no chances.
"We are contacting the thousands of commuters on our e-mail alert list," says Council Chairman and commuter Jim Cameron of Darien. "We're asking them to contact their state lawmakers and urge them to oppose this nonsensical move by the Governor."
The Governor's proposal to save $5 million by cutting rail service to 4,300 daily riders harkens back to her predecessor John Rowland's 1994 budget suggestion to shutter service on the same lines. That plan was soundly defeated by the legislature after the Commuter Council rallied riders' support.
The Council pointed out that the loss of commuter rail in communities like New Canaan and Wilton would lower real estate values by making those towns inaccessible to folks working in New York City. Lowered property values equates to lower tax revenue, less spending on schools and a downward economic spiral.
"We've just spent $60 million putting signals on the Danbury branch," notes Cameron, "and now the Governor suggests closing it down to save $5 million? This makes no sense!"
"I'm hoping every commuter, on the mainline and the targeted branch lines, will take a moment this holiday weekend to e-mail or call their State Representative and Senator and urge them to oppose this budget disaster," says Cameron.
Created by an act of the Connecticut legislature, the CT Rail Commuter Council's members are all commuters who serve without compensation as advocates of their fellow riders' interests. The CT Rail Commuter Council meets monthly with Metro-North and CDOT and testifies before state and regional boards and commissions in favor of affordable, reliable rail service in the state.
More information is available at the Council's website: www.trainweb.org/ct
shortpants
1:58 pm on Thursday, November 25, 2010
What a great Leader Rell has been...announcing such a controversial proposal on Thanksgiving eve so it's buried over the holiday weekend.
Four Jacks
2:27 pm on Thursday, November 25, 2010
Where on earth would all of the NC commuters park? There is already a shortage of commuter parking on the New Haven line. Are people supposed to drive? Is that earth friendly? What mixed signals our government gives - use less resources - but we're taking the train away.
WiseShopper
5:06 pm on Thursday, November 25, 2010
Rell is out of her mind!! There are other ways to cut the fat and eliminate wasteful spending at MetroNorth. Her proposal for doing away with the New Canaan, Danbury and Waterbury lines is so downright stupid. She doesn't care...she's a lame female duck of a governor anyway. CT has had a string of ineffective governors - Weicker, Rowland and Rell. Time will tell if Malloy will set CT on the right course...
Slmnrc
10:16 pm on Thursday, November 25, 2010
I am thinking that if they could expand service it will help the economy of Ct.... it's about time we think of ways to grow the economy to solve budget problems - not simply tax more and cut services but GROW the economy !
Skip Ploss
7:29 am on Sunday, November 28, 2010
Cutting rail service is stupid. We live near the Danbury Branch's Cannondale Station and would use it more often if there was not a three hour gap between trains.
I can only imagine that this proposal is sort of a flipping the bird at Fairfield County on her way out but don't know why. It's like the fact that virtually nothing was done on Route Seven all summer when nobody was in town but as soon as school starts we begin closing lanes, bridges and the like. It would seem that Hartford has bad feelings about us down here.
JMH
10:17 am on Sunday, November 28, 2010
Having been a long time commuter on the New Canaan Branch, I estimate that there are at least 400 people on each of the first five trains that leave New Canaan on a workday. That equates to 2,000 cars parked at the four stations on the branch line. If they close the branch, how much will it cost to create 2,000 more parking places in Stamford? Yes, there will be those that choose to drive to New York City. So make those 1,500 parking places. This would also likely be the situation in South Norwalk where the Danbury line. There goes the $5 Million in savings.
Darien Voter
2:51 pm on Sunday, November 28, 2010
Everyone (including the Commuter Counsel members) should know that with so little use, state subsidies for service on the Waterbury Branch can't be justified in these difficult fiscal times. They just don't want to say it.
Raymond McGarrity
3:26 pm on Sunday, November 28, 2010
RM WATERBURY
Subsidies are fully justifies for the WATERBURY BRANCH. Check out the first several southbound trains out of Waterbury and they will compete with anything on the other branches. There is need for another north bound train from Bridgeport , but it cannot be added as the politicians in Hartford removed the passing tracks and took out the automatic signals. Oh! yes Hartford which boards much less passengers than Waterbury is getting tons of money. Yet Hartford will have tons and tons of money lavished on it. And speaking of parking lots, Waterbury needs a larger parking lot, if not a parking garage as sometimes I have to drive to Naugatuck to find a parking space.
ken danyo
1:28 am on Monday, November 29, 2010
There are only 1771 commuters, from new canaan according to wikipedia.
Of the 1771 , only 1340 commute ful time. I can say, as a long time commuter, that at least 250 commute from darien or noroton heights. Another 75 already drive to stamford. The 1771 was total who commute.
Your down to 1000 people--to have an entire train line go to? And have hourly regular service?
They shut down buses in NYC for school kids. They shut down subway lines from Broolyn and queens. And they served far more than 1000 people a day. the new canaan branch is, sadly, simply a convenience. the town of ridgefield, weston, wilton, etc all have to drive to south norwalk, goldens bridge darien, to catch a train. It loses , Im sure, a ton of money for metro north. the governors decision is a tough one, but the right one.
JMH
6:11 am on Monday, November 29, 2010
Ken Danyo, I have searched wikipedia and do not find the reference you have above. Could you please provide it?
JMH
6:16 am on Monday, November 29, 2010
Kan Dany, Another question: Does your numbers include those that get on at the other 4 stations along the branch?
Even with your numbers, How is Stamford going to accomidate the 1,000 additional riders that will need to park? There is a shortage of parking at stamford currently. How much will it cost to create the parking spaces?
Darien Voter
4:17 pm on Monday, November 29, 2010
If you do some searching on the Internets, Waterbury branch ridership equiates about 6500 commuters per month or only 325 people per workday. Danbury has 7x the riders of Waterbury and New Canaan 17x that.
JMH
7:20 pm on Monday, November 29, 2010
Darien Voter / Ken Danyo, I feel inadequate, I searched the internet and did not find any numbers. Help me so I can learn. Where did you find the numbers. URLS or copies of the search criteria would be helpful.
Darien Voter
8:46 am on Monday, November 29, 2010
Rayond:
1. I agree the New Haven-Hartford/Springfield line upgrade is a huuge waste of taxpayer's dollars.
2. A few full am trains on the Waterbury line does not make the subsidies paid to operate a full time line justifiable.
PAL
9:27 am on Monday, November 29, 2010
Terrible idea all the way around. NC Commuters pay more than $500 a year for a parking spot --
the town will lose all that income. Many People who rely on the train to get to NC to work here will have no other way of getting here. It is dangerous for the early am commuters (5:30 and 6:21) to have to drive to other towns to get a train to work -- especially in bad weather -- there will be more accidents from tired drivers having to drive to fast to get to Darien or Stamford -- and no question that our homes all of which have lost value already, will lose more value. New Canaan is already a long commute. If our property values drop further, so does our tax base, and the quality of our schools. We will lose a lot more than the $5 million Gov. Rell thinks she is saving.
Imagine how long it will take to get to train/home at night in rush hour traffic. Shutting NC train creates more problems than it solves. This is not "leadership". It's the opposite.
ken danyo
2:20 am on Tuesday, November 30, 2010
darien voter?
17X for new canaan? 17X 325 =5525 commuters.
according to my search, new canaan has roughly 1000 commuters a day heading for ny via train.
JMH
6:32 am on Tuesday, November 30, 2010
Ken Danyo / Darien Voter -> Let us know the reference so we can see the same information.
Darien Voter
11:56 am on Tuesday, November 30, 2010
Execute a search on Google "Waterbury Branch Ridership" and an article for the Waterbury- American comes up.
Slmnrc
7:53 pm on Tuesday, November 30, 2010
now that Ridgefield / Branchville instituded a parking fee at the train station we can VERY CLEARLY see how they talk about public transportation bt dont support it . My guess its another one like Ridgefield/Branchville - ideas about the trains from people who dont ride them.
typical government out of touch thoughts and ideas.
why not look at expanding the economy to close the budget gap !
renzo
9:54 pm on Tuesday, November 30, 2010
What do you expect!! The state is in a 4 BILLION DOLLAR HOLE. Blame the dems they spent the money. D'oh!! But the residents must love it they voted in the same old TAX AND SPEND DEMS AGAIN. You get the goverment you ask fore!!!!!!