Gun Violence Talks Planned for Today in Wilton

Wilton’s Domestic Violence Task Force is holding meetings at 10 a.m. and 7 p.m. at the Wilton library; speakers include local organizers of Connecticut Against Gun Violence, as well as a forensic psychologist who focuses on threat assessment in schools.

As national attention turned to the gun debate in the wake of last month’s brutal shooting deaths of 20 Newtown 5- and 6-year-olds and their teachers, some Wilton residents are hoping to increase awareness about violence issues much closer to home. Jennifer McNamara, the chairperson of Wilton’s Domestic Violence Task Force, has organized two meetings to take place today at the Wilton Library to focus on gun violence and the threat it poses to our schools.  

The task force opted to plan two meetings—one at 10 a.m. and one at 7 p.m.—in order to encourage as many people to attend as possible.

McNamara said she was motivated not only by what happened at Newtown’s Sandy Hook Elementary School, but also by two recent incidents of gun violence involving the Wilton community—the Grumman Avenue shooting, an alleged domestic altercation during which a rifle discharged, injuring both the husband and wife; and the shooting death of Cider Mill teacher Svetlana Bell, allegedly by her husband, Robert, after what was also reported to be a domestic dispute.

“I felt so disheartened—everything happened right after we did our big push for Domestic Violence Awareness Month in October. You do everything to get the information out there but it doesn’t seem to reach the people that need it,” McNamara said.

McNamara has invited representatives of Connecticut Against Gun Violence (CAGV) to speak at the meetings: Lucy Davies and Harrison DeStefano, two Wilton residents who are organizing a local chapter of CAGV, will attend the morning meeting; Ron Pinciaro, CAGV’s executive director of the organization (and a Wilton resident) will represent the organization at the forum in the evening.

Dr. David Bernstein, a forensic psychologist, will also be speaking at Thursday’s morning presentation.

“Dr. Bernstein will be discussing threat assessment with a focus primarily on school violence, and red flag behaviors—that’s really a whole other component too, that we really have to change the way we deal with mental health,” McNamara said, adding that local officials will attend the meetings, including First Selectman Bill Brennan, police chief Michael Lombardo and State Representative Gail Lavielle.

McNamara went to a well-attended gun violence meeting in Westport the Monday following the Newtown shootings and felt that people now would be more attuned to learning more about the issues. “I was overwhelmed by the amount of people who showed up at that meeting—more than 200 people. I think we can get a lot of people in Wilton who would be very interested in now learning about gun violence, and it would be a good opportunity to build more support for the Task Force,” she said.

Some support that McNamara is hoping to build is with the Wilton school district. She said that school superintendent Dr. Gary Richards’s office has told her he won’t be able to attend either meeting Thursday but that the information would be passed on to other district administrators.

“I’m hopeful that the principals will come. Particularly for the kids. It’s been a really hard month having these conversations over and over, having to explain about Ms. Bell, and then having to explain about Sandy Hook. My hope that school administrators attend the meeting has to do with Dr.  Bernstein’s presentation on threat assessment. I believe it will be very informative, especially in light of what just happened in Newtown,” she said.

Her goal is to focus attention on the impact violence of all kinds—domestic, gun, against women, in particular—has on the entire community.

“I do hope it raises a level of awareness, and that people really do say that it’s happening and it’s happening right in front of us—our neighbors are affected, the children our kids go to school with are affected. It’s not some problem ‘out there’ in some other city. Domestic violence is everywhere. It doesn’t matter where you live, what color you are, what religion you are or how much money you have. It touches everybody. Who is helping those poor kids of the Grumman Avenue family? Who is helping them and their friends of what they know and what these children have lived through?"

Concerned Parent & Gun Owner January 11, 2013 at 03:33 AM
It got interesting when Ron took questions. The first difficult question came from the back and asked Ron to describe the weapons used in th Oikos and Virgina Tech massacres. When Ron did not offer them the questioner revealed that in both those instances, pistols, no "assault rifles" were used. The questioner then pointed out that in Oikos University in California, already a state with a 10-round mag limit, the killer only used legally limited 10-round mags and managed to kill 8 students and wound 3 others. Ron did not seem to take a debunking of the efficacy of the mag limit well and countered that six kids escaped in Newtown while Lanza was reloading and dropped his mags. That might be true but I have heard from a LEO that Lanza reloaded a couple of times while his mag was not empty. No explanation for that other than the video game syndrome of reloading your virtual mags independent of their remaining round count. Maybe he had a misdeed. Who knows? Just because Lanza had a reloading issue, that does not dismiss that mag caps are not that effective. It also does not counter that mass murder is possible with pistols alone and limited mags. Of the 50 to 55 people there, the vast majority were in favor of stricter gun control. No shock. However, it was depressing how quickly they were willing to dismiss arguments showing the efficacy issues involved. One woman, who wasn't the best informed, referred to the NRA as akin to the Mafia, and received clapping. Met Andy.
Concerned Parent & Gun Owner January 11, 2013 at 03:38 AM
AZ - by my count, based on people I knew and others who made their stances known privately, about a dozen were pro-firearms, a dozen were in the middle, and the balance were predisposed toward more controls. TV12 had a cameraman there who interviewed the speakers afterward. The primary pro-self defense firearms questioner refused to be interviewed. There were two politicians there "listening".
Jlo January 11, 2013 at 03:41 AM
Wow, that is embarrassing for CAGV, I thought they were somewhat organized but they sound like a bunch of wacko's. Do they realize how unlikely and unenforceable such actions would be? AR's don't have to be registered and there is no way mags could be tracked. Strange that he would be spearheading this organization yet be so misinformed about not only firearms but also about laws, the constitution, and the complete lunacy of what they are asking to do. I firmly believe that no full ban/confiscation type deal would ever fly, and if it did I am lucky enough to have other residence in a gun friendly state so I will just pack up my AR, high cap mags and anything else that mommy and daddy deem too dangerous for me to have and move them out of state. Sounds like no one was going to get a word in edgewise but did you give it a shot CP&GO? How many people were at this goat rodeo? Nice of you to attend, wish I could have come along.
Concerned Parent & Gun Owner January 11, 2013 at 04:00 AM
Jlo, let's just say my fingers lost their grip on my held tongue not too long into the questions. This was not embarrassing for the CAVG. Don't be fooled by my mocking of Ron's knowledge, etc. Ron's inclusion on the Biden commission, and the attention he can get in Hartford makes him a very effective player in this drama. And make no mistake about it, he is a zealot who will not stop until he fully disarms us of everything but sling shots. And speaking of slingshots, an anti-weapon bill raised in another town seeks to regulate sling shots, BB guns and archery bows. Talk about jumping the shark?! When was the last time a long bow was involved in a mass murder? At Little Big Horn? Jlo, sadly, while it is easy to mock these folks and the holes in all their "solutions", they are onside red subject matter experts by folks less knowledgable than you and I. ron is a charleton whose organization has a $16 MILLION DOLLAR budget. He says he's a small fry compared to the NRA but 16mm is not chump change. To be fair to Ron, I agree with Ron on cracking down on rogue dealers and straw buyers. I also agreed that we should cap rifle mags, but at 30, not 10. What I found interesting is that the crowd has little knowledge of the real world. For example, few understood that there are millions of high cap mags in Connecticut right now. No one also seemed to appreciate that a mag confiscation could cost the State $50-100mm. Though one woman did shout "who cares" at the costs. "
Jlo January 11, 2013 at 04:22 AM
Wow, I'm not exactly known for my tactfulness so its probably better I couldn't make it, I would have had it out with this guy. I'm definitely for cracking down on illegal guns, straw buyers, and requiring background checks for all gun purchases, but as a law abiding citizen I don't want to be told what I can and can't own and how many bullets I can load in my magazine. This is really getting ridiculous.....what scares me is that Biden probably thinks this is great stuff he is getting fed to take back to the boss. I weep for our country. Although I would get some strange satisfaction out of it if Wilton says they have to lay off teachers and cut the after school programs because they blew all the board of ed funding on tracking down high cap mags. Then that lady would be probably be on patch ranting and raving about what a stupid idea it was.
Concerned Parent & Gun Owner January 11, 2013 at 04:23 AM
No AZ, the questioner was trying to make the point that in both Oikos and VT, there were no assault rifles involved, just handguns. The call to confiscate assault rifles right now, and Ron's proposal is no possession, no grandfathering, is being based on eliminate ARs and you eliminate the big threat to our children. The questioner was trying to show the fallacy to that argument that eliminating ARs is gong to provide only a false sense of security. Make no mistake about it readers, Ron and CAGV (and AZ I assume) are genetic anti-gun people and they are using the Sandy Hook tragedy to accomplish what they can not do without the emotional stress of Adam Lanza's massacre. If the school was not attacked, we would not be involved in this discussion, at least not at this level. Further AZ, the questioner was using Oikos to show that mag bans, as in California, can not prevent a mass shooting. The shooter there was quite effective in creating carnage with compliant limited 10-round magazines. And then the questioner pointed out that the UT tower shooting was the most deadly in US history and was accomplished with a traditional bolt action deer hunting rifle. Ron's response? "That was back in the 1960s". I lost most respect for Ron at that point because he dismissed an inconvenient fact so flippantly. The entire point of that exchange is the proscribed "solutions" are not solutions, just and attempt to disarm the law abiding, rightly vetted citizen.
Jlo January 11, 2013 at 04:29 AM
Yup they are playing this up for all they are worth. For all the talk of "doing what's right for the children" clowns like this are tap dancing on their graves to push their agendas through. It pretty sickening to me, though I'm sure those on the other side would say my pro gun views are sickening so I guess its a wash. sigh.
Concerned Parent & Gun Owner January 11, 2013 at 04:30 AM
One last thing before I turn in AZ. I assume you are one of Rompn's acolytes or just a kindred spirit but he did slip at one point. Ron acknowledged that over 80% of handgun-related crime is conducted by criminals or those who are intelligible to legally carry firearms. That was interesting to me because he just two minutes before spouted the stats on gun violence and how that was a reason for more regulation. Bit here's the thing, if 80% of the handgun crimes, injuries and deaths are by the hand of those already outside the regulatory system, how is further regulation of the law abiding going to have any impact on these non-law abiding? The pesky questioner challenged Ron on that but the question was ignored. Wonder why?
Concerned Parent & Gun Owner January 11, 2013 at 04:55 AM
But here's the thing. Of those in the pro-control group, two were sufficiently informed for me to consider them worth debating. The balance were mostly uninformed or "empty vessels" as a friend called them. And into those empty cavities went Ron's swill because he had the compelling data, the power of the podium and was the guest speaker. The difficult questions were from the crowd of rebel rousers and did not carry as much weight. But most depressing Jlo was that Ron is very slick in a Columbo sort of way. Messy notes, not quite proficient with the laptop, mussed hair makes him come off as the fumbling but honest advocate. Yet he is a mster presenter. He used Obama-worthy false choices like when he said the NRA is a trade organization for the gun industry who have double the number of guns in about a decade and "how many more do they want? 600 million? 1.2 billion?" and at that point, no matter how insane and impossible those numbers are, people in the crowd were murmuring or shaking their heads. He had them thinking it is stop the NRA now or we go to a billion firearms quickly. He also screamed at the pesky questioner during the ban efficacy discussion that "You don't care about the children!" which must have hit a chord with questioner how retorted "I have four school aged children, how dare you suggest that!" That was the high blood pressure moment of the evening. Ron is deadly serious about slowly but surely disarming the public. He is a man to fear!
Concerned Parent & Gun Owner January 11, 2013 at 05:01 AM
AZ - if Ron and others want to control guns and disarm the public, then say so straight up. But do not tell me it is about the children when the "solutions" being offered by the legislation have already been shown to be ineffective in other places. But what pisses me off, and why I think him both a Charleton and snake oil salesman is that he knows his solutions are not going to prevent school mass murder and yet he is selling it as a panacea to a public that is clamoring for "something, anything" to be done. I would love to say I find Ron well-meaning but misguided but I don't. I see him as a confiscatory taking advantage of a tragedy to advance his political endgame. And sorry, as a man of principles, I find that strategy abhorrent.
Alethiologist January 11, 2013 at 05:25 AM
Let us remember Obama won the swing state electoral votes by a COMBINED total of some 350,000 votes; mostly in urban areas. There are plenty of Americans who don't want the government to intrude in our lives.
Concerned Parent & Gun Owner January 11, 2013 at 10:49 AM
AZ - I will give you the benefit of the doubt that it was late and you misread what I typed. My ONLY reason of mentioning Obama was to suggest that Ron's rhetorical sytyle was "Obama-worthy", not what you interpreted by your comment. To whit, Obama regularly presents his audience with two FALSE choices assigning one to his rhetorical opponents and to ostensibly "right minded" people who are usually on his side already. His classic style is "Let me be clear, when face with the choice of killing all dogs because they bark or getting therapy for just those dogs who bark too early in the morning, I think we have to do something". He suggests his opponents are for the ridiculous option of the former (killing all dogs) while his side his side is the more reasonable latter. However, the majority of his opponents with the exception of the looney fringe are somewhere between the two as their initial position. Obama does it often to loop all of his opposition in with the Tea Party fringe of the House GOP. For the uninformed public, they don't know they are being played. Same thing with Ron suggesting that the NRA was out to quadruple the number of "guns on the street". In the US it has taken over 15 years for the number of guns to effectively double to current levels where many have "their gun" or enough guns. We are at about 25% of the country's households owing firearms (Ron says CT is 16.1% today) both numbers down significantly from 50 to 100 years ago. (continued)
Concerned Parent & Gun Owner January 11, 2013 at 10:59 AM
(continuing) So we are rapidly approaching a saturation point and the pace of guns sales excepting period of panic buying, are likey to taper off in the years ahead. Yet, Ron presents the uninformed in the crowd with the Obama-esque false choice between doing nothing and letting "the NRA put 1.2 billion guns on the street" or enacting some sort of gun control legislation. As for it being political, I disagree but I do think it is now ideological. Ron suggested that the vocal factions in CT that have different views are rural, suburban and urban. I think he was suggesting that the rural folks are against more controls, the suburban for more controls on ARs and mags and the urban calling for getting illegal guns off the streets. A point was made by pesky questioner that as the debate unfolds, e participant try to avoid using "the gun culture" to place all gun ownership and use into the same basket. His point was that law-abiding permit holders are not the same as street-crime related gun perpetrators and neither group is the same as the homicidal and suicidal young man bent on mass murder. There is a point there which is one reason folks on my side are so easy to frustrate, you lump us in with gangbangers and the Lanzas of the world. Doing so is using Ainsky-style tactics and is not a show of good faith. (continue)
Concerned Parent & Gun Owner January 11, 2013 at 11:10 AM
(finishing) If Ron and the anti-gun industry want to forge a relationship with some shooters, try not vilifying us all. Try not dismissing our concerns. Try not ignoring our pointing out the deficiencies in your "solutions". And don't tell us we don't care about the children when our own kids attend the same or similar schools in nearby communities. If you want to find some "common ground" try treating the law-abiding as part of a potential BALANCED solution rather that vilifying, denigrating, isolating, conflating and our wise showing that you have no desire to find common ground unless it is your ground mostly or totally. Presenting a defacto total ban and required confiscation on AWs in a state with tens of thousands already in civilian hands is not compromise. Presenting a defector band and equated confiscation on magazines of any capacity above an arbitrarily chosen 10-rounds is not compromise. Ignoring or dismissing inconvenient observations that these efforts would not have prevented many of the mass murders these changes purport to stop is not compromise.
Alethiologist January 11, 2013 at 11:21 AM
Let me be clear, given the choice between denying Constitutional freedoms to all citizens and to those who violate laws, I will always do the right thing.
Harrison DeStefano January 11, 2013 at 02:49 PM
Gentlemen, I think we need to take a step back and acknowledge that we are all having these discussions for the right reasons. We all want to protect our kids. Ron, myself, all the mothers and fathers, politicians and principals, gun owners and "anti-gun people" at both meetings were there for one reason - we all are worried about the safety of our kids. I am sorry I had to leave before the heated exchanges began last night and I am also sorry that many of the gun owners weren't able to be at the first meeting. Dr. Bernstein's talk about the psychology of these school shooters was informative and gave us all a lot to think about. If you missed the first meeting you also missed our discussion about what we are trying to accomplish with our group here in Wilton - which is dialogue and change. We want a constructive conversation free of name calling and we are hoping for a civil debate on the right course of action. I believe in the right to own a gun and to protect yourself, your family and your property. but... I think that all gun purchases should be subject to a background check. I don't see how that impacts any law abiding citizen except a few days wait for a gun. I think that an offensive, military style weapon equipped with a 30 or 50 round magazine should not be in the hands of anyone but police and the military, just as I believe I shouldn't be able to own a tank or a RPG.
Harrison DeStefano January 11, 2013 at 02:56 PM
Let's also acknowledge a few other facts aside from the broad statement that more guns = less crime. I would agree with that if the guns always ended up in the good guys hands. Unfortunately that is not the case with the existing regulations in this country. Here is a piece from the Wall Street Journal about shootings and the homicide rate, it came out just before Newtown - so no one was tap dancing on any graves. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324712504578131360684277812.html Shootings are way up in this country. Let's start thanking Doctors for the lower homicide rate and not the NRA and assault rifles. Let's get these guns out of the hands of criminals, lets keep these guns away from our kids and let's move forward in the country and make it a safer place for everyone.
Harrison DeStefano January 11, 2013 at 06:22 PM
CP&GO, I am happy to talk further - the back and forth on this comment blog is useless. If you are free next week I would enjoy sitting down with you and discussing your ideas in person. Here is a link that has a decent summary of Dr. Bernstein's talk along with my e-mail. If you are willing to sit down and chat you can pull my e-mail off the article and contact me. http://www.thehour.com/news/wilton/wilton-takes-stand-against-violence/article_5d53ae25-7a55-5e0f-ba19-a89ce9d162f2.html
Andrew January 11, 2013 at 06:26 PM
The writer should change the headline into "Anti-gun activists plan to talk today in Wilton"
Andrew January 11, 2013 at 06:59 PM
The NEJM "study" viewed all the gunshot deaths that occurred in King County, Washington (population 1,270,000), from 1978 through 1983. The far majority of the deaths were suicides. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3713749
Harrison DeStefano January 11, 2013 at 07:20 PM
CP&GO, My e-mail should be on the bottom of that link I posted above.
Steve January 12, 2013 at 03:37 AM
Note that the NEJM study referenced above has been a hotbed of controversy & many are critical of its author Dr. Kellerman. There were many variables he did not take into consideration. I believe the author had an agenda & used favorable statistics to back it up. Some links to critical reviews: http://www.firearmsandliberty.com/read5.html http://home.comcast.net/~dsmjd/tux/dsmjd/rkba/kellerman.htm http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcdgaga.html
Andrew January 12, 2013 at 07:37 AM
It was a very limited study, it is an aged study and it was flawed but that did not stop the "expert" Ron from using it while dismissing the UT shooting as aged. Tell you what, let us move to the most present firearm studies from the medical community. Part 1: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3513846/ Surg Neurol Int. 2012;3:133. doi: 10.4103/2152-7806.102951. Epub 2012 Oct 29. Part 2: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3513850/ Surg Neurol Int. 2012;3:135. doi: 10.4103/2152-7806.103542. Epub 2012 Nov 16. This newest study tears apart the opinionated and slanted NEJM study done 30 years ago.
Alethiologist January 12, 2013 at 10:45 AM
Studies vary on the effect of video games and other screen violence. Some conclude that such media can desensitize people to real-world violence or temporarily quiet part of the brain that governs impulse control. Other studies have concluded that no lasting effect exists. For instance, the American Academy of Pediatrics declared in a 2009 report, "The evidence is now clear and convincing: Media violence is one of the causal factors of real-life violence and aggression." The report focused on all types of media violence, the Associated Press reports. But for video games in particular, the pediatricians cited studies that found high exposure to violent ones increased physical aggression in the short term, and warned that they allow people to rehearse violent acts. On the other hand, the pediatricians’ group said friendly video games could promote good behavior. So where is the editorial outrage against violent video games, movies etc? Maybe hacking away someone else's legal guns is easier than ensuring your own home (parenting skills) creates the appropriate social empathy in your children...
Shocked in WILTON January 12, 2013 at 02:01 PM
I also was at this "meeting" whos valid main topic, as I am sure others across the state are being hijacked. The discussion was supposed to be about Domestic violence. The ladies who spearheaded the discussion were level headed, intelligent and had an important point to make. After they had spoken, I had instant concern and sympathy to their plight. As one of the ladies stressed multiple times, this is NOT about banning guns, but to discuss domestic violence in its various forms. No sooner than the obviuous paid spokes person Ron Pinciaro arose, that he stole the conversation and instantly alligned it with the agenda to slowly, methodically but assuredly ban all guns in Connecticut. I listened thinking that everyone has something valid to say, maybe this man....Absolutly not, every sillable this man uttered was at best half truths aimed at people, especially women who would react quicklu and emotionally to the faux facts presented before them. It was almost amazing to see how every word, or every line was orchastrated to "mold" under the guise of education, the ordinary persons mindset. There is no doubt that Ron Pinciro is part of a larger scheme most probably eminating from Soros funding to execute his small role on a local level. The aspect that disturbs me the most about this reality is that some legislators in Connecticut are knowingly participating in this charade of emotional disinformation. I cant entirely blame them Its all about getting reelected. ....Or is it?
Shocked in WILTON January 12, 2013 at 02:16 PM
Most of us are busy in our every day lives working, taking care of our families, trying to be productive people. The average person does not have time to focus on the crucial issue of gun ownership and its ramifications to our lifestyles in America. I am sacrificing some of my time, yes even taking off of my sole proprietor work...to try and speak to people, media and legislators on the ruse that is being perpetuated on the people of Connecticut and the country as a whole. I am not representing the NRA here, thought I do largely side with the spirit of their concern. The opportunists, who are looking to take all firearms aways from the people have a definete goal. Look at their evil dishonest methods in passing bills as law in general........."Just jam them through" Imagine that this administration, has no solution to Sandy Hook, but is trying to quickly force though, with no discussion, and the perpetual threat of "executive order"......a ban on guns (starting with the misnomered assault rifle) Please take the time to focus on what they are trying to do, Democrats and Republicans , rich and poor, black and white alike and make your voice heard and presence known
Alethiologist January 12, 2013 at 02:23 PM
Ron Pinciaro and Connecticut Against Gun Violence are calling for bans on everything but single shot firearms. Please email them (be nice) and try to educate them. Ron Pinciario CAGV: call him at 203-895-0651 or get him on the facebooks at https://www.facebook.com/ron.pinciaro
Connecticut15 January 12, 2013 at 03:17 PM
The 'education' component even from the DVCC was disappointing. I have heard stats presented in the past that there are an estimated 30% more unreported domestic crimes. How do they estimate an 'unreported' domestic crime. Now they align themselves with the UN's effort of 1Billion.... with the same proportion - 1/3 of the 3 billion people - women who will be raped or...., A member of the audience chuckled in his comment that why are gun owners afraid to have their names and addresses shared publicly on a map (the pin dot map that the Westchester paper provided then linked it to google maps with pictures of homes and yards, i.e, access points and roads and neighbors,) saying that gun owners shouldn't be afraid since they own a gun...the DVCC representatives did not counter that immediately and perhaps not at all that there are domestic violence victims who legally have a gun for protection and do not want their perpetrators to know that information, And while there may not have been as many speaking up to protect 2nd Amendment rights, that did not mean they weren't present. The CAGV representative it appears has been put on the BIden commission more out of expediency without balance as a result of Newtown. I was surprised to read that UK crime and gun stats need careful consideration. Not included if crime is unsolved as to perpetrator whether someone was killed or not. And their violent crime is 4.5 times higher than US per capita.
Connecticut15 January 12, 2013 at 03:36 PM
the CAGV wants to repeal the law that forbids publicly identifying law abiding gun owners? So law abiding citizens are being targeted for not committing a crime? Is that fair or appropriate, no, it isn't. This position is a tactic that speaks louder than words. Owning a gun legally does not translate into killing unlawfully or killing at all. Having the ability to defend oneself against crime is not a crime.
Shocked in WILTON January 12, 2013 at 09:50 PM
Alethiologist, I love when two people can discuss an issue and come to an intelligent conclusion. Theoretically, the sum of two minds should equal to more than two separetly. . In the case of Mr Pinciario, I call the bluff. He is a charlitan, a snake oil salesman with one covert agenda, for the so called greater, anti -American good. He cannot be educated, he is predisposed and consistant in his hyporcritical vision. I have seen men like this time and time again. (No ladies and gentlemen, I am not a bible thumper) But you really can see evil in the classic biblical sense by simply by looking into its eyes. What this man represents operates at a frequency so far above the ordinary mans conception, it is almost beyond belief. This is just my .02. But what do I know. I have made a good living for only 23 years "reading the tea leaves" with great accuracy and success.


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