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Gun Legislation Task Force: All Options Are on the Table

It is the areas where there is common ground that they will seek to take immediate action, according to all six legislators.


While the question of ‘when’ loomed large at a town hall meeting organized by Newtown Action Alliance Tuesday night, the other topic on people’s minds was what are the proposals is leaning toward. And like with the timeline, residents had different ideas about what is needed — and what isn’t.

While the Task Force is looking at three issues, much of the discussion centered around guns, gun laws and gun violence.

All six legislators repeatedly said that they have talked about every angle and possibility that one can come up with, and that all options are on the table. It is the areas where there is common ground that they will seek to take immediate action.

One such area, legislators said and the majority of residents who spoke seemed to agree, is putting in place a permit process for purchasing “long guns,” like rifles and shotguns. Currently, in Connecticut, a permit is only required when purchasing a handgun — and that includes a background check as well as a mandatory safety class.

Other gun-related proposals discussed, some similar to those proposed by President Barack Obama, include:

  • Assault rifle ban
  • Magazine limits
  • Universal background check
  • Tighter regulations around sales
  • Gun offender registry program
  • Gun buy back programs

Other residents urged legislators to first review existing gun laws and better enforce them before enacting new ones, some noting that criminals do not follow laws and, therefore, law-abiding citizens are the ones who suffer and who, potentially, could be put at greater risk.

Another resident suggested that legislators consider using civil liability as a tool. “We have strict liability for dog owners, but not for gun owners,” she said.

Donald Borsch Jr., of Bethel, a self-described “filthy, registered Libertarian Independent,” posed a series of rhetorical questions, asking legislators if they will be able to guarantee no more gun violence, and then said, “You can’t legislate morality.”

In response, McKinney drew the loudest applause of the night when he said he would never stand up and say legislation will stop all gun violence, but that the state should do whatever it can to make Connecticut safer.

The Process Moving Forward

The Task Force has already held four hearings, including one in Newtown, as it has sought to gather public input on the issues. The subcommittees are working on their final proposals, which will then be considered by the full task force.

Legislators in attendance Tuesday night said they expect the full package of proposals to be the subject of a final public hearing before it goes to the floor for a vote. They further related that it’s likely there will be at least three separate bills, one for each issue, and possibly other related bills that will move through the process, too.

A Model for Washington

As the meeting ran its course, legislators and residents began to remark and compliment each other about how civil and open-minded everyone was being. “I’m encouraged by what I’m seeing tonight,” said one gun owner.

“These issues and this event hit all of us in a way that we realize we shouldn’t be doing those types of things,” McKinney said, referring to the partisanship that has plagued Washington and, at times, reared its head in Hartford.

“Meaningful change can arrive in Connecticut, and Newtown can drive it,” said state Rep. Mitch Bolinsky, R-106, who districts includes about 90% of Newtown.

Reflecting on the night, Murray said she was appreciative of how cordial the speakers were. She was particularly pleased that gun owners had come to share their thoughts. “I think it went really well. I’m feeling optimistic,” she said.

Admittedly new to the entire process, earlier in the evening, Murray called herself and those involved in Newtown Action Alliance “accidental activists.”

 

Thomas Paine February 22, 2013 at 08:52 PM
http://wilton.patch.com/blog_posts/senators-murphy-and-blumenthal-admit-black-rifle-bans-are-unlikely-anytime-soon-if-ever
Bill C February 23, 2013 at 05:48 AM
They have no shame.........There is no limit to how low they will go...........They will do ANYTHING to disarm America........How much of this is orchestrated to implement the UN Small Arms Treaty? Do you trust their motives and honesty on the State and Federal level? Well its a new low. SHOCK REPORT — Veterans Receive Letters From VA Prohibiting Ownership or Purchase of Firearms http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/02/shock-report-veterans-receive-letters-from-va-prohibiting-ownership-or-purchase-of-firearms/
Alethiologist February 23, 2013 at 12:51 PM
Bye bye Connecticut jobs, tax revenue, home values tc. etc. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/23/texas-mississippi-invite-gun-makers-to-move-to-state/
Thomas Paine February 23, 2013 at 01:18 PM
Truth Seeker - It is potentially worse than that: http://wilton.patch.com/blog_posts/would-new-gun-laws-spark-widespread-civil-disobedience
Donald Borsch Jr. February 23, 2013 at 01:40 PM
We Are The Second Amendment. Period. http://wr2a.wordpress.com/2013/02/20/welcome-to-wr2a/
Kenneth J. Dartley February 23, 2013 at 11:57 PM
Every legislator who votes on gun legislation should be forced to take a one day course in gun safety and learn exactly what all the current laws are that have been passed up till now. They need to see touch and maybe even fire a firearm. This can be given by the State police and in conjunction with someone from the NRA. An uneducated vote is a real problem. Public hearings are not good enough.
Bill C February 24, 2013 at 01:59 AM
The State Police may not be able to be trusted to tell legislators the truth. I heard Senator Meyer on the radio spewing his garbage. He "claimed" that according to the State Police, guns are not used for defense in Connecticut, that only happens down south. So either the SP are supplying info as instructed by the Senator or Meyer was just lying. The host didn't believe him and he made the claim several times along with his BS about the 2nd Amendment only grants you the right to a single shot weapon like in 1789, laughing at anyone that thinks otherwise. Then there was the SP taking part in a demo with a full auto misleading the public into thinking that is the kind of gun they want to ban. The class would probably be helpful to legislators that really wish to do the right thing. That sadly is not the case with many of them. The same is true of Malloy. He is willing to sell out Connecticut citizens to assist the Obama agenda.
Kenneth J. Dartley February 24, 2013 at 03:42 AM
TOTO-- Thus the reason for the NRA to be involved.
Concerned Parent & Gun Owner February 24, 2013 at 04:25 AM
Have you seen the video of Himes getting an AR-15 demo form CSP? Did they show Himes how quickly a mag can be changed? Did they bring out a lever action Winchester 1894 to show how quickly that could be fired? How about a mag-fed Ruger-Gunsite Scout Rifle? The senior brass are no different the other "chiefs", they are politicians first and LEOs seconds. "To Serve and Protect" is more about serving and protecting the controllers of funding that it is the people. Ask any patrol cop or crushing state trooper.
Bill C February 24, 2013 at 08:06 PM
Not just anything, ban magazines and semi-autos. Classify everything as an assault weapon then deny them to you, Bait and switch. Ban the AW mags then extend them to pistols. Their afraid of grenade launchers??????? Bayonet mounts too. Muzzle breaks??????????? Obama was known to say, while posing as a "law professor" or what ever position he was unqualified for at the time, that he did not believe anyone should own a gun. Anyone but his hoodlum supporters. These guys want you totally disarmed, helpless, and totally under their thumb. The reality is they were just waiting for a crisis like this to take advantage. Think about this. This happens right after an election. (With widespread fraud. My family's hunting camp/farm way up in Maine had its address used for some same day registration and voter fraud. It happened in small towns all over Maine and other close states. A pole worker happened to tell our neighbor/caretaker about it and asked how she liked her new neighbors. They then reported it and a fake ID was used. We were told that they couldn't tell who the fraudsters voted for so nothing could be done.) Wow, I can get sidetracked but it really gets me going. Anyway , just after the election, in the state with some of the toughest gun control in the country, just after giving the go on the UN Small Arms Treaty "Gun Ban". Just something to think about. I know it sounds crazy. WEAPONS DENIED Just like a disabled Vet.
Winky Dink February 25, 2013 at 01:09 PM
You can have your guns...just no assault weapons...what is so terrible. if your concerned about protecting your family..a hand gun or rifle should do just fine until the police arrive...anything else is strictly an ego stroke for all you chicken hawks and wanna be tough guys out there who never spent a day in their lives.
Edmund Burke February 25, 2013 at 01:51 PM
Winky Dink. Nice moniker Whats the difference between an "assault weapon" and a handgun or a rifle?
Concerned Parent & Gun Owner February 25, 2013 at 02:32 PM
Winky Dink - I own more than one rifle of the Armalite Rifle design (you know, the AR in AR-15) and none of them are "assault weapons" by any proper definition of that abused term. So I get to keep them?
Donald Borsch Jr. February 25, 2013 at 03:06 PM
Winky Dink, I use a shotgun as one of my home defense tools. If I shoot someone with it, legally, will you then demand that shotguns now be classified as "assault weapons"? What if a person uses a shotgun to shoot multiple people in a public venue? You cannot dictate what is and what is not an assault gun/weapon. You lack the ability.
Bill C February 25, 2013 at 04:00 PM
Like I said before, its all bait, switch and deception. Lets follow this through. The first claim. No one needs an assault weapon to hunt. They want us to believe that the 2nd amendment was about hunting. In fact US v Miller, a 1939 decision, finds the 2nd applies only to weapons suitable for military use. Back to the deception. These "assault weapons" have detachable magazines. What do these American Traitors do next? They define an "assault weapons" as any gun with a detachable magazine and one other extremely dangerous military feature such as a flash suppressor, muzzle break or bayonet lug. Grenade launcher? They "may" have some ground on the grenade launcher. WALLACE: What about a weapon that can fire a hundred shots in a minute? SCALIA: We’ll see. Obviously the Amendment does not apply to arms that cannot be hand-carried — it’s to keep and “bear,” so it doesn’t apply to cannons — but I suppose here are hand-held rocket launchers that can bring down airplanes, that will have to be decided. That, along with violent criminals must be what he meant by reasonable restrictions. Back to the deception. These "AWs" have standard magazines that hold 20 or 30 rounds. They think that is bad. How long does it take to change a magazine when no one is shooting back at you? Well of course, they want to ban them. True to form, they don't differentiate between "AWs" and pistol magazines. That allows them make your Beretta or Glock useless. Slippery Slope? Think so!!!
Q.D McGraw February 25, 2013 at 04:39 PM
WOW...forget it ...Uncle ... I give . lets just file this under things no one should talk about along with religion and politics. I'm not sure what you are all afraid of...but it's most likely your own shadows.
Edmund Burke February 25, 2013 at 04:47 PM
QD No one is proposing to limit my choice of religion or restrict my vote.
Bill C February 25, 2013 at 06:19 PM
Edmund, they don't have to propose to limit your vote. Thats why elections turn after finding bags of ballots in parking lots, trunks and desks the next day. Key districts with %108, %114 and even %146 turnout, some with every single vote for the Dem after Rep poll watchers were thrown out. As far as your religion. if your a Christian, your children are being brainwashed out of it in the schools like they are being indoctrinated into global warming, gay marriage and Barrack Hussein Obama, mmm, mmm, mmm. At a time such as this, one can not help but to remember Jefferson's immortal words, " When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another". Gentlemen, the time is nigh.....
Donald Borsch Jr. February 25, 2013 at 06:39 PM
Edmund, Well...not yet, anyways.
Donald Borsch Jr. February 25, 2013 at 06:42 PM
"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the Courts - not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution.” - Abraham Lincoln
Carmine Ragusa February 25, 2013 at 07:23 PM
Edmond...you just proved you're a Richard...bet you drive a Porshe.
Bill C February 25, 2013 at 07:25 PM
How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!....Samuel Adams The said constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms....Samuel Adams .“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty.... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure. Thomas Jefferson
B Eubanks February 25, 2013 at 07:43 PM
Hey Edmond---something tells me no one ever pays any attention to you. Were you the guy I saw in Portofino's Last Saturday night eating alone. "Hi...I have a reservation for one under the name Edmond"-
Chandra Johnson Greene February 25, 2013 at 07:55 PM
Two comments have been deleted from this thread because they violate Patch's Terms of Use. Please refrain from insulting one another, thanks!
Edmund Burke February 25, 2013 at 09:11 PM
Only you B, hope its Betty not Bob.
Edmund Burke February 25, 2013 at 09:24 PM
LOL, If I had a Porshe I wouldn't be eating alone.
Cliff Cuming February 25, 2013 at 09:31 PM
Sorry about the opening advert but this is interesting: THIRD amendment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F584p5kJL-U
Donald Borsch Jr. February 26, 2013 at 03:44 PM
WR2A: We Are The Second Amendment goes all social media-ish! Stop by and say Hello, will ya?! ;) http://wr2a.wordpress.com/2013/02/26/social-media-alert-facebook-page-and-twitter-now-active/
Sanchez February 27, 2013 at 12:19 AM
Or that books would be restricted?
Bill C March 08, 2013 at 08:16 PM
New post on CCDL Blog S.B. 1076, An act concerning gun violence…… has nothing to do with gun violence…… by Chris This is a guest post by Jonathan Hardy who handles permit and legislative issues for CCDL. You can email him at permitissues@ccdl.us He also has his own website, and his own blog. First, I will preface this article with a serious call to order: WE MUST be at the legislature Thursday, March 14th. There is a public hearing for this bill and details can be found at the CT General Assembly website, or click here. I know many of us are planning to be at the legislature next week on various days, and the opposition is well aware of this fact. They want to break us down, let’s show them that we WILL NOT stand silent anymore. Let’s make them aware this is not a bill about gun violence, it’s about gun control – period. http://ccdl.us/blog/2013/03/08/sb1076/#more-781 http://www.cga.ct.gov/2013/TOB/S/2013SB-01076-R00-SB.htm Sec. 32. (NEW) (Effective July 1, 2013) (a) Every person in this state shall register each firearm he or she owns or possesses in accordance with sections 31 to 43, inclusive, of this act. Sec. 33. (NEW) (Effective July 1, 2013) (a) On and after July 1, 2014, no person shall purchase or possess ammunition without having first obtained a registration card identifying a firearm suitable for use with that ammunition. Too much for this post....Its at the bottom of the bill. After definitions.

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