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POLL: To Tax the Rich: Continuing the Discourse

Three Wilton Patch readers make left, right and moderate cases on whether or not to tax the top one-percent of income earners.

Last week’s article featuring over 30 comments, with readers coming from all sides of the issue. Our reader poll showed that out of 163 votes, 60 percent of those who participated in the poll agreed with taxing the wealthiest one-percent of Americans, 36-percent were opposed to the notion and three-percent were undecided.

The conversation in the comments has been lively and (miracuously) almost totally devoid of inflammatory, name-calling rhetoric. Below are three strong viewpoints from Wilton Patch readers. Whom do you agree with, and why?

 

“E. Thibault”: Says she has no problem paying more because she makes more (which she does)

“Fair and equitable are two different things. Say the percentage is 10% 

Someone who has to support themselves, and possibly contribute to others, while earning $20k a year, would pay $2k in taxes. 
Another individual, with the same obligations, earning $150k, pays $15k in taxes.

Do you think that living on $18k is more challenging than living on $135k? In my opinion, that $2k is going to make a lot more of a difference to that first person than the $15k is going to make to the second.

And while $100k doesn't go nearly as far in Fairfield County as other places in the state or country, it certainly is enough to allow us to save at least 15%, live in nice neighborhoods, drive newer cars, go out to dinner frequently, go on vacation, and enjoy other luxuries in life. I graduated college with 100K in student loans, and made less than half of this amount when I first moved here, and I can say from experience, that all of what I've mentioned is the lifestyle I live, while still having paid off my expenses.

I'll happily pay my taxes, as I earn my higher income, to allow the children of that $20k earner to keep the extra $2k and feed them.”

“Jlo”:  Wants to put a ring on it, and keep it.

“I tend to agree with Mr. Alper. The most equitable thing is for everyone to pay the same percentage basis of their income to taxes. Of course the richest should pay their fair share but you can't expect them to shoulder everyone else’s responsibilities….In Fairfield County a six-figure income does not make you rich. If you are single and making 100k a year you are living comfortably but not putting much, if anything, in the bank once you have paid taxes, gas/car expense, rent/mortgage, food, and all the other incidentals. Add kids into the equation and you will need a much higher income if you expect to support them, save for retirement, and put something away to help with their education.”

Steve Symonds: We need better leaders who are willing to compromise in order to solve this

“… It's a fact and has gotten much worse in the past decade. And it doesn't take a genius to notice that companies who were bad actors and brought the economy to the brink of disaster were saved by us taxpayers and now have record profits - part of which they pay to lobbyists to kill laws and regulations enacted precisely to keep these companies from imperiling our economy going forward. There is plenty of blame to spread around - but what there is not plenty of is a willingness to compromise which is the essence of democracy. We need leaders - yes in [Wilton] as well - who are interested in working together to find solutions...not in making inflammatory statements that equate groups of folks [such as the Occupy Wall Street protestors] using their Constitutionally-protected right to assembly demonstrates presidential ineffectiveness. Pathetic.”

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RW October 19, 2011 at 03:42 pm
Not bowing to the class warfare this "tax the rich" proposal promotes, let's not forget what really got us into this mess- government overspending and interference in the free markets. The CRA was specifically designed to force banks (AKA Wall Street) to lend to minorities and the working poor who were unable (or unwilling) to repay the loans. To entice the banks to do this, the government provided guarantees from fannie & Freddie, building an enormous load of bad debts, driving up housing coats, and artificially stimating consumer spending through easy money. The party is over and now we have to pay for it. With almost 50% of the population paying NO federal taxes, we are crushing the earners and job creators in this country. Flat tax across the board (obviously with some relief for the poor) is the most equitable approach. Unless we reduce the spending in Washington & Hartford, we could tax 100% and it wouldn't help.
DD October 19, 2011 at 04:02 pm
Agree with RW. Regarding the "Buffett Rule" (requiring all taxpayers earning more than $1.0 M a year to pay at least the same rate as middle income taxpayers), not only will this not generate anywhere near the revenues being hoped for (since only 0.3% of taxpayers earn above this amount, and most already pay at a higher tax rate), but it directly contradicts the President's advisors (both business and labor) who want to encourage investment in small businesses. A current proposal being considered is to make any investment in a business worth less than $25 M completely free of capital gains tax if the investment is held for at least 5 years. Great idea, but since the people making those investments tend to be among the wealthiest taxpayers, how do you, on one hand, offer 5 years of tax free gains, and on the other, place a minimum tax rate on high income earners as per the Buffett Rule?
Casey-Mahoney-Brad-P October 19, 2011 at 04:21 pm
Hi! I got my bachelors in IT security and it set me back $45,000.I am happy I want to college.I knew when I signed on that dotted line that I will owe that money.I do not expect a free ride from the government.I would like to see the interest waved on college loans.
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ETP October 20, 2011 at 01:19 pm
Here is a quote from a guy who obviously has his pulse in the wrong place:
"The Hill reports Harry Reid "indicated Congress needs to worry about government jobs more than private-sector jobs." Reid said on the Senate floor, "It's very clear that private-sector jobs have been doing just fine; it's the public-sector jobs where we've lost huge numbers, and that's what this legislation is all about." However, Fox News' Special Report said, "The facts show the opposite. Since the end of the Bush years, 6.2 million private sector jobs have beenlost, while just under 400,000 government jobs have been lost." So how do you deal with a guy who is willing to say anything to cater to his constituents...INTEGRITY anyone?
CTPati October 28, 2011 at 08:03 pm
Except for senators like DeMint, Lee and Rand Paul, INTEGRITY is rare in the senate!
I'm part of "the 53% of Americans who pay federal income taxes....The 53 percenters stress the fact that they are paying the taxes that support the government assistance the protesters say they want."... "The protesters need to stop complaining about the government and financial institutions and start looking for work. Ken Gardner, an attorney in Dallas, joined the conversation because he opposes government handouts. "'We don't want to be the 53% who carries the 47% on our shoulders,' said Gardner, who thinks more people should pay federal income taxes."... "'What the 99% is missing is the element of personal responsibility,' said [Josh]Trevino, who is also vice president at the conservative Texas Public Policy Foundation. 'The 53% want to bring that into the conversation.'"... "I am responsible for my own destiny," writes one 34-year-old father of three. "I will succeed or fail because of me and me alone." "I took jobs I didn't want. Why don't you?" says one poster to the protesters. "Suck it up and become part of the 53%."... http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/26/news/economy/occupy_wall_street_backlash/?cnn=yes
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Thomas Paine June 18, 2013 at 01:29 pm
And here's more about the article:Read More http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/06/18/ms-magazines-my-month-with-a-gun-story-shooting-blanks/?print=1
Thomas Paine June 18, 2013 at 01:32 pm
The concluding paragraph from the item above: "Hopefully her 30-day experience will remove herRead More fear of firearms and help her recognize that the vast majority of American firearms owners have taken to their responsibility with the necessary seriousness and gravity required. Maybe she’ll also learn that no matter how many laws you pass, you can’t regulate irresponsibility out of existence. Grown-ups still have to be grown-ups. Maybe she will also learn how the Bill of Rights is supposed to work, and how one amendment strengthens another. At a minimum, people like Heidi Yewman should be passingly familiar with the Constitutional rights they’re agitating to take away from their fellow citizens."
Thomas Paine June 18, 2013 at 01:44 pm
PR - I am out of town Thursday evening but you should attend this one:Read More http://weston-ct.patch.com/groups/announcements/p/gun-violence-panel-at-trinity-episcopal-this-thursday_087922d8
Bethlehem Lutheran Church June 17, 2013 at 02:36 pm
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Publius Redux June 17, 2013 at 03:38 pm
A simple truth: when those who call Christ as King do that which He has commanded, we realize thatRead More none of us need the government's handouts, which is just a 'slave to the lender' mindset.
Ronnie Raygun June 17, 2013 at 09:32 am
never forget Newtown...!! (RNS) Each Father’s Day, Neil Heslin and his son, Jesse Lewis, usedRead More to go to a car show. But that tradition died when 6-year-old Jesse was shot and killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. This Father’s Day, Heslin, who has been active with other Sandy Hook parents in pushing for gun control legislation, is giving his support to the No Father’s Day campaign. Speaking at a media teleconference to launch the campaign, Heslin said, “Jesse was my only child, my only immediate family. I don’t have a father to share Father’s Day with.” Initiated by PICO National Network’s Lifelines to Healing Campaign, the campaign asks participants to send e-cards to Congress, urging passage of legislation to create universal background checks and end gun trafficking.
Ronnie Raygun June 17, 2013 at 09:32 am
(RNS) Each Father’s Day, Neil Heslin and his son, Jesse Lewis, used to go to a car show. ButRead More that tradition died when 6-year-old Jesse was shot and killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. This Father’s Day, Heslin, who has been active with other Sandy Hook parents in pushing for gun control legislation, is giving his support to the No Father’s Day campaign. Speaking at a media teleconference to launch the campaign, Heslin said, “Jesse was my only child, my only immediate family. I don’t have a father to share Father’s Day with.” Initiated by PICO National Network’s Lifelines to Healing Campaign, the campaign asks participants to send e-cards to Congress, urging passage of legislation to create universal background checks and end gun trafficking.
Sanchez June 17, 2013 at 10:27 am
Exploiting dead children for your political points is disgusting and vile. Given the poster thereRead More can be no surprise about such.
Publius Redux June 14, 2013 at 11:17 pm
From linked article_______ "The victims “have a financial uncertainty, they need theRead More money,” Feinberg said. “You have to say, ‘Here’s the money, here’s what we’re doing with it.’” Some Newtown families say that didn't happen in their town. Lafferty-Hassinger posted to Facebook her frustration about the United Way requiring "proof of hardship" to determine how to distribute funds: "We shouldn't have to fight for what is rightfully ours, but we won't be taken advantage of in our darkest hour," she wrote. "We've all been walking a fine line between not wanting to profit from the death of our loved ones and not wanting someone else to profit from our source of grief. We went down when we were kicked, but we are Sandy Hook. It's time to stand back up."___________ I reckon my questions are thusly: What financial uncertainty is there in the death of a child, AND since when did money that is donated privately become something that is 'rightfully' belonging to someone else due to a tragedy that is not a natural event like a tornado or hurricane?
AZ June 13, 2013 at 12:39 am
Foul! Foul! Blocking foul! What an odd sensation this false empowerment. I did not understandRead More this tingling sensation. No need to tell you about internet anonymity...Publiticus Reflux.
Cathy June 14, 2013 at 08:58 am
Where is the concern for the character development of our kids? Where is the concern for theRead More physical health of our kids? What long term health effects will these 'pills' have on the young - still forming bodies? Will taking these drugs have any long term side effects that can make life miser able in the future? If a 16 year old girl is being bullied into sex, is that an excuse for providing this contraceptive? Can she get on the pill ...the one that is taken profilactically - without an Rx? I think not...why the difference? Having condoms in a bowl like candy in the high school nurses office is a major contradiction to the teachings in many a home...and now this...how sad. Childhood gets shorter and shorter....
AZ June 14, 2013 at 12:44 pm
Reality is minors have sex. As for character development, I would rather my 16 year old daughterRead More continue her development without an unintended pregnancy. If your child child is being bullied into sex, having sex regularly and not talking to their parents, or having to get condoms from the school nurses office as if they were like candy....you as parents have missed the boat and the the ship of parental guidance has set sail long ago.